Would you say you're reinventing menswear?
Normally, when you see men who are wearing beautiful outfits, there is something special going on. It could be his attitude, the styling, one of the pieces he's wearing, or all these things put together. I like stylish things, ideas and solutions and not crazy, unwearable things that look more like costumes. Maybe you wear it once and the second time you ask yourself, "What am I wearing?" There's a lot of margin, that space between being classic to being too much. So instead of creating crazy volumes or exaggerated prints for a crazy story, we work on the little details to make the garments look cool.
Do you begin with a silhouette in mind?
I start with an idea of a certain aesthetic or a lifestyle, and then I work on the silhouette first. Fabrics come just after. We need the right fabrics to embody the silhouettes I have in mind. I don't want to do the opposite — I don't want to to the fabrics before, if not you're trapped into doing one thing that is not related to the idea. So the idea is first, then fabrics and old photos and so on. Even when you go into a vintage shop and look for nice garments, you need to start with a creative idea.
You pair things with caps, you have Velco sneakers this season… Do you like the direction where menswear is going, this blend of the formal with the informal?
Absolutely. But I think the past three or four years was about sports tailoring and sportswear detailing. To me, today is about a new world where you don't talk anymore about oh you know, "I'm in the office, I dress like this. I go outside, I dress like that." So we don't just think about one aesthetic anymore.
Have you seen someone wear your clothing in a way that you never thought of but it's interesting?
Yes, but also the opposite when I thought, "No, that's not cool." [Laughs] But yes, I like to see people I don't know wearing my clothes. It's very exciting.
Do you think the Zegna man cares about trends?
Of course, of course. But the Zegna man belongs to several generations and he is constantly changing.
When designing the Triple X, the icon of your collection, how cognizant were you of the fact that in today's digital world, icons are a way of communicating brand DNA? Was that in the back of your mind, that you needed to create an icon for the brand?
Sì, sì, sì. The idea to use "the stitch" was created a long time ago (more than 10 years ago) as part of the couture label. Because the single criss-cross stitch is the detail our atelier used to finish a couture jacket. It was the idea of extending of the use of that detailing that turned it into something more bold. Yes, I wanted to create a logo with a story, not just to be visible.